CONFIRMED! The Next Game In The Sonic Collection Is...
It's back.
And I promise you that I'm not shitting you. It was thought to be impossible, but it's coming. There will be some changes, though.
More soon.
Update 05/21/21:
More details, as promised:
-There will indeed be changes done to the music. It appears to be the beta music that was originally intended. Don't expect ANY the songs that MJ and Buxer worked on to return. This is going to be a divisive decision for many in the community, but many need to understand that this is how it had to be, in order to get the game re-released.
-Angel Island, Hydro City and Marble Garden should be fine.
-This deal over the music was finalized early in 2020.
-They're now allowed to use Sonic 3 in promotional materials again, which is why the Sonic 3 Tiger game system got a re-release last year.
-Can"t get into the full legal logistics today, but there was a changing of the guard at the Jackson estate in 2018, and that lead to talks opening up again.
-This collection was originally going to be developed by an outside studio, but SEGA decided to bring it in -in house. This will be the first SEGA internally developed Sonic collection since Sonic Gems Collection in 2005.
-There are fans involved in the development of the collection. And no, not Evening Star.
-A mobile release is planned, but I'm unsure if that will release the same time as the collection or not.
please don't be kidding me, i really hope its rereleased with the same love and care as the other genesis game remakes/remasters
ReplyDeleteDo not kid. Zippo, you have one chance to turn back and save face if this is not so. If not...
Delete...please don't be wrong.
Do not kid. Zippo, you have one chance to turn back and save face if this is not so. If not...
Delete...please don't be wrong.
I'll definitely keep and eye out.
ReplyDeleteSo, let me guess: Sonic 3 but with the beta/PC music in place of the MJ tracks (Carnival Night, Launch Base, Knuckles' theme, 2P Menu, etc.)? Rumors have said MJ's estate has been the biggest obstacle to another S3K rerelease. I dunno if Brad Buxer's Ice Cap composition is in the way though.
ReplyDeleteAlmost-edit: It has just now occurred to me that Buxer was MJ's musical director, so yeah Ice Cap is totally getting nixed.
DeleteHmm. I think I'll just stick with Sonic 3 A.I.R.
ReplyDeleteYes, but you see, this one's OFFICIAL!!! You MuSt GeT iT bEcAuSe It"s OfFiCiAl!
Delete...RiGhT?!
Bull fucking shit. Bull and shit.
ReplyDeletesounds awesome but is it sonic 3 & knuckles or sonic 3 *and* sonic & knuckles cuz the last collection had em separate
ReplyDeleteWhy not both, like Classic Collection for the DS did? That way you choose whether you want to play them separate (especially 3, since it has quite some changes) or together.
DeleteI hope it's actually Sonic 3 & Knuckles together (as if you were using the lock-on technology), rather than having them both in the collection but separate games.
ReplyDeleteAlso I hope we can keep Sonic 3's original music (Carnival Night, Ice Cap, Launch Base, etc.), but I have a feeling they might use the PC music (which I guess we now know was technically the actually original music before MJ was brought on).
As Sony both owns MJ's music and the PlayStation brand. Will Sonic 3 and Knuckles be a PS5 exclusive lol
ReplyDeleteNope
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ReplyDeleteGreat but i really hoper for the Adventure Games
ReplyDeleteSEGA finally re-releasing 3&K sounds too good to be true.
ReplyDeleteMy guess is that it'll have the songs in the pc collection/early versions of the game.
ReplyDeleteHmm is tee lopes gonna redo the music for s3k? Could he be redoing all of the music
ReplyDeleteOk, let's see what music may have been prohibited by copyright by what Sega, to my knowledge, hasn't used in the past.
ReplyDeleteAngel Island: Sonic Mania
Hydrocity: Sonic Mania
Marble Garden: UNUSED
Carnival Night: UNUSED
Icecap: UNUSED
Launch Base: UNUSED
Mushroom Hill: Gens 3DS
Flying Battery: Mania
Sandopolis: TSR
Lava Reef: Mania
Hidden Palace: Mania
Sky Sanctuary: Generations
Death Egg: UNUSED
Big Arms: Technically Sonic Mania Adventures (Animation)
Doomsday Zone: UNUSED
So, out of all of those, I'd say Icecap is probably the song that has prevented them from a remake.
An easier way to tell is by the beta music and seeing which would receive new tracks in the final version. Those would be the following then tracks:
DeleteCarnival Night Zone (Act 1 & 2)
IceCap Zone (Act 1 & 2)
Launch Base Zone (Act 1 & 2)
Knuckles’ Theme
Act 1 Boss
Staff Credits
Completion Screen
Ten tracks I mean
DeleteDo you think they'll use the beta tracks for the remake instead of the final ones?
DeleteBig Arms was remixed in Gens 3DS too. It's (ironically) the first boss of the game.
DeleteBoth Marble Garden Zone and Death Egg Zone were unlockable songs in Sonic Generations. Also Doomsday Zone was used in an earlier build in Sonic Generations 3DS as the boss theme for the classic era.
DeleteNo new game like Sonic Adventure 3?
ReplyDeletePretty sure Sega's keeping that one especially secret. This is just part of a collection; it's not the 30th anniversary game.
Deleteits no secret everybody knows its forces 2
DeleteNope, its not forces 2, sega doesnt do sequels anymore, besides why would sega make a sequel on a trash game? It makes no logical sense
Deletemy friend have u ever heard of something called sarcasm?
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DeleteLol, Bringing in a random person that no one knows doesnt make your leaks anymore believable than they already are
ReplyDeleteDoes this only affect S3 stuff or are some of the S&K songs also getting replaced?
ReplyDeleteMost people say it's gonna be the Beta music, but I don't think every song has the legal need to be replaced, like the Knuckles theme.
Sonic & Knuckles had NO legal issues with its music. Although SEGA considers it to be the second half of Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (which is likely why they don't release it on its own without Sonic 3), legally it is a different game and would require negotiations to add more MJ / BB music. Thus, all music was developed in-house by SEGA
DeleteAlso, for the Sonic 3 Knuckles theme, yes, that's one of the ones that SEGA doesn't own. They do own the one from Sonic & Knuckles, though
DeleteI think there has been a misunderstanding. I know S&K doesn't have any legal issues.
DeleteWhat I meant is that, if some of the music is getting replaced by the beta/PC ones, will it be only the songs that didn't reappear/get replaced in S&K, or is EVERYTHING getting replaced by the beta music?
For example, S&K has a different Knuckles' theme, but so does PC Collection.
Sorry I misunderstood. I can’t say for certain, but I’m guessing only the music with legal problems will be replaced with the beta music (although I think for Knuckles theme they won’t use the beta and just use the S&K version)
DeleteSorry I misunderstood. I can’t say for certain, but I’m guessing only the music with legal problems will be replaced with the beta music (although I think for Knuckles theme they won’t use the beta and just use the S&K version)
DeleteOk, I just realized something. S3&K has most of the S3 Jingles replaced by the ones for S&K, so those most probably are gonna be left untouched, while the S3 portion (if the Collection comes with both the games fused and separate) would have those changed.
DeleteSo its not Evening Star. So does this mean we wont be getting the long awaited Christian Whitehead version of Sonic 3?
ReplyDeleteMaybe they are lending the retro engine and recommending users from the Genesis modding community to work along side SEGA
DeleteI hope so. It woul be nice if we got all the Stealth and Taxman versions in a collection. M2 are good but straight ports are no incentive for me to spend my wedge.
DeleteLol the collection just got listed on the same site Colours Ultimate was on some time back
ReplyDeleteFACTS lol
DeleteA collection just got leaked by the same website that leaked the sonic colors thing. So maybe Zippo is becoming more trust Worthy but we gotta see.
ReplyDeleteHoly cow, you were right.
ReplyDeleteWe had a direct and you were right
ReplyDeleteWho do you know, Zippo?
ReplyDeleteWait did know about sonic rangers that's supposed to be the name of the game an open world
ReplyDeletego ahead and sign up for sega-16 to give your leaks on a pro-sega fourm
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