Edit: Yes, There WERE Sonic Adventure Remakes.

 



Just before we start, there's more articles to come, as I promised, this one just needs to be out there as soon as possible for reasons that I'll explain in a second.


Note, none of this that follows is speculation.

The information that's been given to me was given by multiple, and I mean multiple people with connections to SEGA. Seems a lot of people knew about this, and were quiet until very recently. This is how it's all been framed to me.

Okay, so...seems like some youtubers, English and non-English speaking, found out about this, so before the story gets spun out into something it actually isn't, I'm gonna drop a bombshell here:

SEGA were developing Sonic Adventure 1&2 remakes, meant for a 2015 release, for PS4, XB1 and Wii U. Additionally, these were full remakes with rearranged music, ala the Crash N-Sane Trilogy.

They were unfortunately cancelled.

There's even some evidence out in public that shows that it did in fact, exist:


Remember this? Jazwares leaked out the existence of the games by pure accident.

Sometime in 2013, SEGA decided that it was time to go back into the Adventure well, so instead of going to Sonic Team, they went to another one of their internal studios. That studio being...Sega Shanghai.

https://segaretro.org/Sega_of_China

"Wait, there's a SEGA of China?!" I'm sure you're asking, and yes, there is. They've actually been an incredibly helpful studio to SEGA as a whole. 

Here's where it gets even crazier. They've worked not only on the PS2 remake and HD versions of Nights into Dreams, but they also worked on the HD ports of Sonic Adventure 1&2 for Steam and whatnot, as well as the Dreamcast Collection, which was released in 2011. And there's even more! They worked on Sonic Generations, Lost World and Forces extensively. Sonic Forces even got a release in China. Also, the game also received PS4/XB1 bundles in China that no other country received:

SEGA allowed this subsidiary to develop these remakes because of three things: 1). They saw China as a potentially huge market to get a foothold in. 2). Sonic Team were not available and were busy preparing the Hedgehog Engine 2, working on Sonic Runners, and starting what would eventually become Sonic Forces. And 3). SEGA never had any intentions of making 8th generation console owners wait four years for a new Sonic game. 

As I heard it, they originally started as just a remake of Adventure 1, with Generations-like visuals, but SEGA was so impressed with their work that they greenlit a remake of it's sequel soon after development started as well.

Story wise, it was going to be the modern voice cast and writers, so take that for what you will, lmao.

What happened, exactly? Things seemed to be going well, and by all accounts, things were well, until Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric hit the scene, and bombed critically and commercially, SEGA also went through a harsh, cost cutting restructuring in early 2015 where many people were laid off.

I heard they were cancelled for two reasons 1). Post ROL, SEGA got cold feet about giving Sonic out to other developers, despite it being their own fault that ROL was a rushed, buggy disaster, not Big Red Button's.

(I personally see it as corporate finger pointing and just them wanting to save face.)

2). SEGA was super cost conscious at the time of the restructuring, here were concerns that these remakes were going over-budget, and that they wouldn't be able to make the money back. Sonic Boom's failure scared the absolute shit out of them.

(I personally think it was an absurd fear in the first place, but we are talking about SEGA here.) 

One other thing I heard is that the Sonic Adventure Music Experience concerts were created in the first place to market and promote these remakes, and were then retrofitted into something else after they were cancelled. Can't let all of that amazing remade music go to waste, right? These rearrangements you hear below were made specifically for the remakes:

 https://youtu.be/HjSkGsGNMIM

Needless to say, that if these had actually released, they could've changed everything. We'd be in a much different place right now, but unfortunately, with the failure of Boom and SEGA's financial woes at the time, the timing just couldn't have been worse. Maybe one day, they'll see the light of day?

Edit 05/08/21: This is an ever-changing, ever-evolving story, and there's more going on here than what was previously thought. Funny what a few months can change. I'll have more on this soon. Thing are in motion. Stay tuned.

That's all I can say for now. Hope I could relay that information as best as I could. As always, thank you for reading, wear a mask, and take care.




For everlasting peace!




Comments

  1. It's such a shame too, that music is pretty nice.

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    1. I hate to tell you but Zippo is usually pretty accurate

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    2. He gets somethings wrong besides it couldve been anything other than sonic adventure remakes we dont really have any proof what game it couldve been

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    3. Also he got deconfirmed by tysell or whoever worked on sonic mania adventures so this leak is wrong

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  2. What about all the stuff you said about the 30th game being adventure style and new adventure games coming out?You said we would get information by the end of March. Im guessing this is BS just like your last post?

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    1. To be fair the last article he said "My guess is that this will air from between the next few weeks and the end of March" key word here being guessed.

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    2. NOT TO MENTION, He said adventure like game play. I have beens aying for months, it´s a return to the forumula but it´s a NEW GAME. I said the adventure remakes wern´t happening before but no one listened to me. I got mocked for it.

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  3. If this is true, then SEGA should have some sort of prototype, right?

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    1. Nope, dont believe this leak, he didnt prove anything

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  4. "SEGA got cold feet about giving Sonic out to other developers..."
    Weird, since the following two games were still not made by Sonic Team, especially since Fire & Ice got a delay.

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  5. There are still flaws to this article, but whatever

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  6. Guys dont take this as fact, its only fact if sega confirms this

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  7. Personally, I'm not convinced, a lot of things don't add up with decisions they've made post SB:ROL, and feel there's not enough evidence to back this claim to take it as fact.

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  8. What a load of horse shit you have here

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  9. That’s such a shame. It’s sounds like it would be exactly what I would’ve wanted, and maybe if it had released it might’ve lead Sonic Team not to feel pressured about rushing Forces? Idk, but I hope SEGA learned that outsourcing can be good, cuz Sonic Team made a meh Sonic game while a partly outside team made Mania. Maybe now they will have re-picked up development on these remakes...

    Do you have any new info to share about the 30th anniversary games? If not that is fine but anything would be appreciated.

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  10. none of those save for like one are "rearrangements", they're literally just the sonic adventure music as it was written except played live

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  12. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCN3rNueqSo
    What do u have to say to this zippo? Exposed?

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  13. Yeah no, that pic from 2014 proves NOTHING.

    It can't be anything other than Sonic Boom.

    -pic from 2014
    -lack of Boom on the games section, who should exist by that time since it allegedly ended the remakes
    -Boom was planned to release in 2015 on a variety of platforms, but was announced/released in advance to coincide with the show and made Wii U only (which Jazwares probably didn't knew at the time, hence the PS4/XONE) bc exclusivity contract.
    -merch made for the remakes wasn't repurposed, which doesn't make sense, they released the old movie design's merch anyway, why not the low-hanging fruit adventure ones?
    -"Ah yes, boom did bad critically and financially so we, in fear of more losses, cancelled the remakes. But we will greenlight another boom game afterwards."

    all that ignoring the fact that SEGA willingly sourced the remakes to a studio responsible for the worst ports of thay same game and, if the "TBA" is really the remakes, also implies that the Wii U could handle the Hesgehog Engine, which isn't the case since No Gens port and Lost World doesn't use it. Or are you saying that they made 2 versions, one with HE for the other consoles and one without it for the Wii U? or, even better, the remakes WEREN'T being developed on the HE.

    Good story tho, almost made me believe.

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  14. dude .. why you not explain you fake shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCN3rNueqSo

    and why just now you say ::oh yes we are getting colors remasters ..... you are a leaker why dont say that until now

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    1. Maybe that's illogical, but I'd better trust Zippo then Pontac or Graff after their english scripts.

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    2. Nono, he has a point, this zippo leak has been debunked by many people and all showed valid proof that they're wernt any sonic adventure remakes

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  15. Well guess what buster? You got deconfirmed: https://youtu.be/lQA56I9LSYs

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  16. Sonic Adventure 3 Research 04/29/2021:

    —Mike Pollock's '3 is a magic number' post to the infamous SA1 Super Sonic Twitter post
    —The hidden ‘3' was the only number left in the template for the golden spiral
    —“Mathematically speaking, Sonic is aesthetically pleasing”, as an acronym gives you "SA (Pleasing)", and the most pleasing thing about that post was the number three. So, SA3?
    --Adventure Era art, Chao, and characters in Chao in Space and TSR Animations, likely used as a testing ground for a future game
    --The concept art and music from SA1, SA2, and Heroes (aka, the 'Adventure Era') released by Sega for a recent charity event
    --Various additional references in official social media posts, including character usage (looking at you, Thanksgiving parade post)
    --Sonic Channel's Sonic Adventure references and style in their monthly art
    --Leakers consistently posting something along the lines of: "OMG, if you knew what the next Sonic game was...", and let's face it, Sonic Adventure 3 are the words that would most likely make somebody say that.
    --Former social media manager Aaron Webber’s current username on Twitter; @RubyEclipse, likely referencing “Ruby” for the Phantom Ruby in Sonic Forces, and “Eclipse” as a reference to Sonic Adventure 2’s Eclipse Cannon. As his resignation was announced on Twitter on June 18, 2020, well into the global pandemic that led to a lack of potential Sonic announcements and marketing, he likely was expected to be a part of marketing the next Sonic game in 2020, and knowing this, secretly referenced a Sonic Adventure title in the latter half of his username. Or maybe he just likes/has different connections to those games. We’ll probably know soon.
    --The desire for SA3 has skyrocketed in the fanbase and beyond, making a huge marketing opportunity and a safe bet for publicity and sales from a corporate view
    --The 30th Anniversary of Sonic, with three definitive eras, and therefore three definitive Sonics (with Adventure Sonic likely included because of its attempted but failed addition in Generations' concept). This is supported by the official 30th art found here: https://soahcity.com/2021/02/12/new-official-sonic-30th-anniversary-posters-revealed/
    --Three Sonics, each from every era of Sonic, can unify the appreciation of all eras into one game if done correctly
    —And there is further evidence of Sega possibly doing this. With the infamous social media post’s text, “Mathematically speaking, Sonic is aesthetically pleasing”, and its hidden number 3, let’s take the 3rd letter of each word, and we get TENSE. This could imply the three tenses, past, present, and future, which, apart from being referenced in the Christmas Carol video thingy, could actually be the theme of the next game
    --Upcoming Sonic Prime will deal with multiple dimensions and likely multiple versions of Sonic as well
    --Tikashi IIzuka went on record saying he wanted to potentially make Sonic Adventure 3

    As you can see, there are numerous bits of evidence, hints, and logic behind a potential Sonic Adventure 3, which I can say will likely come to pass. Sonic Team's been taking their time, and I hope they learned from Forces to actually do something with every bit of that time rather than a little more than one year of it at most. I believe the release date will be one year after what I believe to be its reveal date of June 23, 2021.

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    1. That'd be great, but I don't really trust Sega enough to make it...

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  17. This leak is nothing but lies, that photo proves nothing it couldve been anything, it couldve been a spin off, it couldve been a new mainline sonic game, seriously guys its better to treat this leak like any other leak

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  18. Thank you for sharing this.
    The group of us Kaithu boys decided to take the Cart Road which now is called the Circular Road. From Loretto Convent which we used to call Tara Hall, we could walk all the way to Mashobra. I have written adventure articles on this road in my other posts. This was not our preferred road of choice on other days, because this was lonely and scary.
    adventure articles

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    1. What does that have to do with sonic adventure?

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  19. it was probably an April fools joke because this was made around April fools day

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  20. What lies are you going to fabricate next, zippo?

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